Since computer games have been streamed live, Twitch has become the place to be. It is the market leader and by far the largest platform in the live game streaming scene. With well over 140 million active users per month, it is impossible to imagine the online gaming sector without Twitch. And yet a number of live streamers are turning their backs on the platform or at least trying to expand beyond Twitch. And one thing is quite clear, where there is a successful product, there will always be imitators and thus alternatives in the long or short term.
But why do streamers leave Twitch in the first place, what is the problem? On the one hand, it is difficult to work your way up as a streamer on Twitch, because the competition here is incredibly high, which is solely due to the large number of streamers. On the other hand, the latest adjustment to the guidelines has also led to a new distribution of revenue, which has not made everyone happy.
As Twitch is only one of many options for aspiring live game streamers, we want to take a closer look at the alternatives in this article. Earning money with live streams on the internet has been a lucrative way to turn your hobby into a profession for years, and it doesn’t look like the number of new streamers is going to decrease in the coming years.
So let’s take a look at the best-known Twitch alternatives and their potential:
Kick – new streaming platform – interesting for gamers?
Founded at the end of 2022, this platform is of course still in its infancy and no one can say for sure whether it will be able to hold its own in this tough business in the long term. Nevertheless, it has managed to get well-known streamers on board and sign contracts with people like Adin Ross and xQc. In the first 6 months alone, the number of users increased by no less than 400% to over 7 million active streamers per month. This can certainly be considered a successful start.
The revenue model was also set up simply and transparently. Kick keeps just 5% of the streaming revenue, compared to a whopping 50% for Twitch. Apart from that, Kick has significantly fewer controls on streamed content. On a positive note, this is good for freedom of expression, but of course abuse cannot be ruled out. However, as censorship itself is not particularly popular with streamers, this is certainly an advantage of the platform.
The low entry barriers certainly make it easier for beginners in particular to gain a foothold in the scene than is the case with market leader Twitch. On the other hand, it will not be possible to generate the same number of viewers as the world’s largest market leader.
Trovo – certainly interesting for beginners
Trovo is a small provider, a niche that is therefore not uninteresting for beginners. There are between 10 and 20 million users here every month, which is both an advantage and a disadvantage. Compared to Twitch, it is quite easy to stand out with your streams, establish your own niche and thus generate regular viewers. However, it is of course currently almost impossible to generate revenue comparable to that of Twitch, which is simply due to the lack of potential paying customers.
And then there’s the problem of origin. Trovo is primarily aimed at the Asian market. Just 10% of active users stream in English, not to mention German.
Nevertheless, Trovo can be worthwhile for a streamer. Micro streamers who specialize in small niches that almost no one else covers can make a name for themselves in the scene relatively easily here. For the masses, however, Trovo is not (yet) a real alternative to Twitch.
YouTube Gaming – Mega reach, but not limited to gaming
YouTube is omnipresent and it was quite clear that the platform would also want a slice of the gaming pie in the long or short term. And with well over 100 million users a day, its reach is more than just competitive.
The fact that you can easily save your live streams as videos on YouTube makes it very interesting for streamers. A whole archive of recorded streams is quickly created at the touch of a button, which can generate new viewers.
With a 70% payout to the streamer, YouTube is also currently cheaper than Twitch, but there is also a decisive disadvantage. As gaming is only one niche among many, the potential 100 million viewers are spread across countless areas, which makes it much more difficult for a gaming streamer to really build up a fanbase. Due to its specialization in gaming, Twitch offers a number of specific functions and communities for content creators that YouTube does not provide to the same extent.
Facebook Gaming – courting the younger generation
Facebook, often reviled by young people as their parents’ social media platform, also wants to get a slice of the gaming pie and win over the younger generation.
It is made incredibly easy for streamers to share their own streams with their existing Facebook followers. And with up to 2 billion people using Facebook every month, the number of potential viewers seems endless. But it’s not that simple. Anyone who gets to grips with Facebook quickly realizes that it can be a long and rocky road to build up your own community of followers there.
With a 70% payout, Facebook looks very good at first glance, but as is so often the case, the devil is in the detail. The FB algorithm seems to weight creators differently, depending on whether they pay for the promotion of their streams, or whether they just forgo organic traffic. A lucrative business from Facebook’s point of view, but a big problem for aspiring and small streamers.
Another aspect to consider is that Facebook is not necessarily known for gaming and streaming. Even if there are countless people here, it is questionable how many of them are really interested in gaming and gaming streams and want to stay there permanently.
Conclusion
Twitch is still the undisputed market leader in terms of gaming streams in 2025. The large community, the popularity of the platform and the technical possibilities for streamers make the platform the top dog in the scene.
But if you really want to be successful, you always have to think outside the box. Multi-streams are the future for many established gaming streamers. Going live on Twitch and competitor platforms at the same time gives you the opportunity to attract the attention of new target groups without any extra work. Coupled with a good advertising strategy on your social media channels, it is still quite possible to establish an international presence as a streamer, even in the highly competitive gaming segment.
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Can you tell us a bit about the early days of The Hun’s Yellow Pages? What inspired you to start one of the first adult sites in the Netherlands?
It had nothing to do with the Netherlands. I was on my way studying technical computer science, a lot was about hardware design, computer architecture, etc. Back then, we’re talking 1990 here, knowing how a computer actually worked made it a lot easier to program then. I was in programming groups with study mates of mine, doing these 32K demo competitions where people were competing to make incredible visuals and music with a program that was 32Kbytes or less. Those were the days of assembly and such. The competitions were the early versions of the LAN parties.
Then this thing Internet came about. Nobody in my study was taking it too seriously. So I went and checked it out on my own. Just to figure out how it worked I bought this little program at a computer dump market square. We went to those regularly to buy hardware and just browse geek stuff and hang out. This program I bought was something you could create some sort of blog with. In those early days I was chatting with people from all over the world. I remember being on some BBS systems. People would post naughty pics on there regularly. When I needed to fill out information on that program I bought I used those links. Then backwards engineers what the program would spit out. That’s how I thought myself HTML. Playing around with colours and stuff.
In my programming group my nickname was The Hun. Nobody went with their real names. Since it was a directory of free porn I changed the color to yellow, and put the title in as “The Hun’s Yellow Pages“. This was 1995. After that I figured out how to put it online. It went viral the old fashioned way from there. I was shut off the internet a couple of months later for burning way too much bandwidth with my free ISP internet page. One of the guys I was studying with had a hosting company. They offered to put me on their extra bandwidth so we could try to sell advertising on it. That never happened, but we found someone that wanted to host us in exchange for advertising. Then my first Internext happened in Vegas, we started to get more and more advertisers and we eventually were able to pay for our own hosting.
The adult industry has evolved significantly since you launched. What do you think have been the most important shifts in the industry over the years?
For us it changed mostly in the way we make money. In the beginning we put on free links people would find all over the internet. Affiliate programs were not a thing yet. Neither were affiliates. When people started to realise the potential we started to receive more and more promotional galleries which we gladly linked to. We paid the bills by selling the ads in between the free links. Then the affiliate marked opened full force. We had to sift through hundreds of links to find the best ones. We still paid the bills with advertising. But so many people started to fish in the same pond of visitors than the advertising market went down, the affiliates started making less money simply ’cause there were more of them and advertising income started to go down.
We changed in the past years listing more galleries that we built ourselves. Most listings on thehun.net are now built and hosted by us. We work directly with the pay sites to promote them from our site. And now that we’re hosting everything ourselves we are becoming way more interesting for google to list us. In the past we were just a portal to free porn on the internet. Now we’re actually a good resource with great previews for what you can find on the pay sites we work with. In the near future I’m hoping to move away from banner advertising altogether and just promote the sites we actually work with to drive sales to them.
How did you approach the challenge of running an adult site during a time when online adult content was still relatively new and uncharted?
We went viral the old fashioned way. People would talk to their friends and mention this site “The Hun’s” and that’s how we got our audience. Google wasn’t there yet. In fact, when google did start to become the source for most traffic on the web we kind of missed the boat since we were “just a portal”. We didn’t have any content on our own site. Google doesn’t want to list the portal, they want to list the content. We’re catching up to this. One of those things you learn over the years, right? It was easier in the past for sure. Less competition is the biggest reason.
And also, we mainly did it for the fun. So we were a lot less aggressive towards our audience. We still are. No misleading links, no popup or popunder consoles or anything like that. The most time consuming for us was always to monitor the links listed on thehun.net to make sure our visitors weren’t mislead or bombarded with consoles and stuff. Some affiliates are greedy. And greed usually changes an industry.
What unique challenges did you face in the Netherlands when setting up The Hun’s Yellow Pages, and how did you overcome them?
Nothing really… maybe it was easier then for people in some other countries. I live in a very liberal country. I know in Germany you have to follow some very strict rules if you want to run a website. Not in the Netherlands. As long as you don’t do anything illegal, you’re good. Getting a bank account is no problem here.
Business and Strategy
What role has innovation played in the ongoing success of The Hun’s Yellow Pages, and how do you stay ahead in such a competitive industry?
A couple of years ago I teamed up with my son Martin. He wanted to be a programmer too from an early age, same as me, and this programming knowledge helps us a lot. The whole site still runs on a single machine. Behind the scenes there’s a lot of nifty programming caching stuff, building indexes, preparing suggestions, etc. etc. The site’s look might not have changed a lot, the backend of it is now a lot more complicated than in the past. And our knowledge on how to make stuff fast and effective certainly helps keeping our costs down. We are now a team of 5 people, and most of that team is programming.
Many adult sites today rely heavily on search engines and social media for traffic. How has The Hun’s Yellow Pages adapted to changes in digital marketing?
We have a great following. A lot of that following is still there. Since we moved to being the affiliates ourselves and building the content on thehun.net ourselves makes us get more and more google traffic. This now seems the place to get easiest traffic. Our domain has been online for a long time, and a visit to thehun.net is still recorded on google Analytics as over 20 minutes. So google knows we’re relevant. This was our goal for a while and the work seems to be paying off
What do you think are the keys to running a successful adult business, especially in a B2B context?
Patience. And I could write a lot more, most of which would be to describe patience. Of course you can try to jump on the google bandwagon and harvest new visitors from there every day, but that seems like a lot more work, plus you’re depending on what google’s doing tomorrow. So you have to act quick. That was never a game that sounded very appealing to me. We try to step back from our site every now and then and try to see it from the visitor point of view. It’s hard to build something that of course has to make money, but also should be interesting enough for people to come back to.
Have you seen significant differences in your audience’s behaviour or preferences over time? How do you gather insights to understand and respond to these changes?
Not really. Of course new technology like VR wasn’t there before. AI is now a new thing. On thehun.net we still see that the same content that’s always was the most interesting for people still is. We also do notice is that what gets voted the highest is not what makes the most sales.
Industry and Future Trends
What are the biggest challenges the adult industry faces today, especially with increasing regulation and competition?
This age verification thing is a bit of a worry tbh. I think it’s the job of a government to educate people. Educate kids, educate parents. Don’t simply block things and expect it to not be a problem anymore. That has been proven not to work so many times in the past. We’re a free site. So we make pennies on every visitor. We have a lot of visitors, so we’re not complaining, but if we’d have to implement some sort of verification it has to be very cheap in order to work for us.
With the rise of new content formats, such as interactive and VR content, how do you see the future of adult websites and directories evolving?
I don’t thing VR will ever become very big, but that’s my opinion. I’ve been wrong before, lol. In the past the adult industry always has been pushing new technologies. It was the adult industry that found a way to monetise movies on the web. YouTube would never have existed without that tech. The main stream (as we called it, which only recently really became the main stream) is now so big that they can pay for the own developments.
Back to your question: for us as a directory it’s easy: if something new is invented we’re pushing it. Since we’re promoting/posting what other people are trying to sell we’re always up to par with what’s out there. It is of course our job to know what the industry is selling, so we’re keeping a close eye on the magazines, visit the shows, etc.
Do you believe there’s still space for newcomers in the adult business, or has it become too saturated?
There’s always room for new people. Some old ones disappear, there’s plenty of fish in the sea. It’s harder than it was in the past. I know of people that build a gallery for a paysite, posted it on thehun.net and made 2500 that day in signups. And we listed 100 galleries a day. It’s not that easy anymore. I saw some tools posted that are supposed to help you build your adult website empire, but basically you’re posting the same stuff everybody else is. I don’t think that’s going to cut it either. Be original, be patient, and there’s still room in this industry
How do you view the future of privacy and security for adult sites, especially given the increased scrutiny from regulators and tech platforms?
Privacy will be a problem if people are required to upload their passport to adult sites. It’s been proven in the past that databases leak, security fails and people you trust don’t always remain to be people you trust.
Content, Partnerships, and Community
How important are partnerships in the adult industry? Are there any particular collaborations or partnerships that have been key to your business?
Well, for every website you’ll need a host. My current host is buying me dinner if I mention them: mojohost. I have a good relationship with them. Since we try to make our software as effective as possible we do need some tech installed on our machines. We were the first ever install of Redis for ’em for instance. They have knowledgable people there, and also some that might know a bit about a server, but as soon as it becomes a little more complicated know not to struggle on with it, but to pass it on to someone that does know. Shit happens. Of course. But shit is dealt with promptly, and that’s what I need in a host. Ok, that was my pitch for a now awesome dinner. Lol!
I like some of the openness in this industry. There are some groups – some kind of hidden, others more in the open – where people actually exchange experiences with each other. I feel a lot of openness and willingness to help when I’m talking to people at the trade shows. I learned a lot at them, and I’m sure I taught others a lot as well.
In there programming world I see kind of the same thing. There’s a big community of programmers that are more than willing to help you when you’re stuck, but it is kind of expected you help people back when you can.
In a time when adult content creators are more independent, how has your relationship with content providers and advertisers changed?
We never dealt directly with advertisers much. In the past it was Cybercat that dealt with all our advertising. Mark & Parney Galione, great people, and I wish them the best retirement! After that we kept a good relationship with some of the advertisers that have been with us for ages and the rest goes to the networks. Now that we’re moving more to being affiliates we working closely with the people we’re doing business with. We don’t want thehun.net to look all the same. If you click a link on the site you should feel like you’re on the site that gave us the content. So we’re recreating the look and feel.
How do you ensure quality and ethical standards in a space that can be challenging to regulate?
Manual work. We have had the same person responsible for what gets listed and what doesn’t (Michel). We don’t allow user upload, the stuff that’s automated is still manually reviewed. If in doubt: skip. Just browsing porn should be fun. You shouldn’t come across stuff you don’t want to see.
We once got a phone call from a police officer. We had pictures of a girl online and she never gave anybody permission to post those pictures. This was in the days where we would still only list submitted galleries, so the content wasn’t on our server. Legally I could have told him that, but I can imagine it’s awful to have imagery on the web that don’t want public. I know who all submitters are, so I contact them. It was one of our advertisers who promptly sent me a video of the same girl, holding her ID and saying how she is getting paid for the shoot and how the company is allowed to used the shot content any way they like. So I sent that back to the police. Eventually the girl admitted it was not posted illegally, but she had regrets. So the company in question let her buy her own content and removed it from their servers. We like to stay legal and take an extra step if we can.
What advice would you give to adult content creators or businesses looking to succeed in the industry?
I don’t deal with many individual creators. I found a lot of those don’t realise how giving away some content can drive sales to the rest of your content. They prefer to stay independent. That’s fine, lucky for us there are more creators out there. I do feel some are grouping together to expose the affiliate business though. My email address is on our site: they can always contact us.
Personal Insights and Reflections
Looking back on your journey, what has been the most rewarding part of running The Hun’s Yellow Pages?
The traveling, the friends and the actual work. I love programming. I knew I wanted to be a programmer since I was 12. And since a couple of years these rewards got even better: I’m now doing all this with my son, Martin. Of course, we’re still dad and son, so we don’t agree on everything all of the time, lol. But all in all we have the same goal, and we’re creating awesome stuff together.
thehun.net is not a 9-5 job. Basically you’re stand by 24 hours a day. But it gives a lot of freedom at the same time. So I was able to grow my business into completely different industries as well. I love building something new. The past couple of days I’ve been busy in my audio recording studio trying to figure out this new analog console we bought. Something completely different, but equally fun.
Are there any lessons you’ve learned that you think every business owner in the adult industry should know?
Treat your visitor as your visitor, not as a cow you need to milk dry.
What has been the most surprising aspect of working in the adult industry?
There are a lot of people in this industry I consider friends. There are a lot less I don’t. It’s a great industry with a lot of great people. There are of course always others with very different business tactics, usually way more aggressive than mine, but the people behind it are still great people I love to have a drink with.
What’s next for you and The Hun’s Yellow Pages? Are there any new projects or goals you’re excited about?
Well, there’s no ‘next’ thing I think. The site start in 1995, 30 years ago this year. By the looks of it we’ll keep going for a while. I still like the work, though Martin is now doing the majority of the work so I have time to run other projects that have nothing to do with thehun.net.
Personal Interests and Hobbies
When you’re not working on The Hun’s Yellow Pages, how do you like to spend your free time? Any favourite hobbies or activities?
I make music. I’ve been a bass player for 35 years now. I play in 3 bands, one with classic rock. An Iron Maiden tribute and a band that plays metal versions of Spice Girls and Backstreet Boys, lol. All a lot of fun, all with great people. Playing a gig feels fantastic, the beer before you go on stage, rehearsals, the laughs, it’s great.
I’m never in my own studio with my own bands. The studio is a professional recording studio for bands that make their money with their albums. I do spend a lot of time there though, recording, mixing.
A couple of years ago I bought a brewery, I got together with a business associate, Frank, he’s running the brewery now. We’re doing great, the place looks awesome! Our industry (the adult industry) did enable me to go all over the world and see what great bars have to offer. We feel we put of lot of those ideas in one place, combined with Frank’s expertise in the bar business we create the place to be in our town!
Running a business can be intense. What do you do to relax and unwind?
I of course have to keep a close eye in the bar, so I’m there once a week or so. I love going out to eat, travel, go to bands playing and even the trade shows I’m looking forward to. I likel to be around people. Being a programmer contradicts with that. If I’m programming I don’t want to be bothered. So I’m making up for that when I’m not behind a computer. On the other hand: here I am on a free Tuesday night typing out the answers to Roland’s questions for the past two hours. lol.
I love food. And not quantity but quality. Asian is my favourite right now. Which is very broad, I know. Chinese food is great, Sichuan (although very spicy) and Kanton are my favourite. Thai is great, Japanese is out of this world. I love going there.
If the weather is good I ride my bicycle to the office. It’s a 7 kilometer ride there. I have an home office, but if you’re working in a team it’s better to sit together. On the way home I usually run by the store and get fresh stuff for dinner. I do most of the cooking at home and although in the Netherlands you’re not supposed to brag, I am a pretty good cook.
The other night at home with my wife and daughter I made a nice dinner, had a couple of glasses of wine, took a guitar and we were singing camp-fire-classics all night. Those are precious nights.
Once a month I go to a cooking club nearby with 12 entrepreneurs. All people working in very different fields from each other, but all with similar issues in their line of work. We prepare and eat a 5 source dinner there, talk about work, family and things friends talk about. We’ve been doing that for 17 years now. A great bunch of blokes.
I also love to travel to unwind. We went to Curacao to visit an old industry friend Ramon. One thing led to another and we now own santamarthaadventures which he operates. Business and leisure are never really separated when doing business is what you like doing I guess.
Do you have any favorite books, podcasts, or movies that inspire you or that you simply enjoy in your downtime?
There’s a Dutch podcast about law that I regularly listen to. It puts your mind at other things and it helps time fly. I’m not much of a reader. I play games on my phone when I want to unwind. Or the playstation. I have one of those race sim seats.
What kind of music do you enjoy? Do you have any favorite artists or genres?
I’m a metal head. I love rock and metal music. But with the right atmosphere and the right mood a Sam Cook song can set tears in my eyes too. I love going to concerts. Latest one was Kreator, Testament and Anthrax. Kreator sucked. Testament was great. And Anthrax… well… I’ve been a great fan of them since I heard them.
Are you passionate about any sports or fitness activities?
When the world soccer cup was on a couple of years back we would get together with a small group and watch the Netherlands play. We’d cook the food of the land they were playing against. Good excuse to get together. After the soccer ended the same group started to get together for the Formula 1. I still follow that closely!
Travel and Favorite Locations
What are some of your favorite travel destinations, whether in the Netherlands or around the world?
That’s easy: Japan. Followed very closely by almost the rest of the world though. But Japan is feels like a different planet. I went to Thailand with Martin last December, that was a great trip too. We never left Bangkok, but if you know your way around that city it can be a lot of fun. A couple of years ago we visited Vietnam after the trade show in Thailand. Very friendly welcoming people there.
Is there a particular place or city that you find especially inspiring or enjoyable?
Yeah, Japan. First time I went there was with my son Martin when he was 12 years old. First thing we bought when we got home was those Japanese toilets. I miss those a lot when we’re traveling.
Do you have any favorite local spots in the Netherlands that you’d recommend to someone visiting for the first time?
I love Amsterdam. Next to the red light district – a great place to go bar hopping – there’s china town with a lof of very authentic places. I recommend Sichuan there. And if you can get in: Bird Snackbar. Not the restaurant! Go to the snackbar. It’s like eating in Thailand. And then of course our brewery where I live!
Food, Drink, and Leisure
Are there any particular foods or cuisines you love? Do you have a favorite restaurant?
I think I already answered this one. I just realised that what I like about a country is their cuisine apparently, lol.
Portugal, Greece, italy… all great food! Amsterdam is a good city to go for different cuisines. The Dutch eat at home mostly. So there are no Dutch restaurants. Well, a couple in Amsterdam, but that’s purely for the tourists. They do serve proper Dutch food, don’t get me wrong, but no dutch person will eat there. The restaurants in the Netherlands are from all over the world. If it’s not specified it’s usually French. In Amsterdam there are a lot of restaurants that have people from there cooking in their kitchen. And with Amsterdam having a lot of restaurants and thus a lot of competition everybody is doing their best to stand out. That usually makes for a great experience.
There is a restaurant very close to our home (I can walk there), which is very good, but I tend not to go there too often. We had Christmas dinner there, which was awesome, but I’m more of a restaurant hopper. I don’t want to eat the same thing over and over. So this place close to home I’d love to visit 4 times a year, once every season.
For some reason the wines from Stellenbosch (a place in South Afrika) is so creakingly delicious. I love their red. Rijk’s Pinotage or Kanonnenkop are my favorite. I love the tannins in red wine that seems to be missing from the American reds. I don’t really like those for that reason. A nice south European (Spain, Portugal, Italy) or South American (Chili) white is great too. You can see I’m not picky!
What’s your go-to comfort food or favorite drink after a long day?
Whenever I cook rise I always cook too much so I can make egg fried rice the next day. A family tradition is spaghetti meatballs. I love that when we’re staying home with the family. A nice bottle of wine, fireplace, guitar… happy days!
My ‘favourite’ chances a lot. For a while I loved a glass of whisky. The smokier the better. I still do, but right I tend to go for the less smoky whiskies. Sometimes I prefer a gin and tonic. In Japan I always drink highball (Suntori (preferably) whisky with soda). On a hot summer day there’s nothing better than an ice cold beer when you get home. Or just some ice cold lemonade.
Do you enjoy cooking? If so, what’s your signature dish?
I love cooking (see before). I don’t know if I have a signature dish, I cook whatever I want to eat. Last Christmas I cooked for my inlas, 24 people, 8 course, that was nice. Martin was my sous-chef.
If you’d ask this question to my family they’ll say: Spaghetti meatballs
Fun and Unique Personal Insights
If you could invite any three people (living or historical figures) to dinner, who would you choose and why?
My grandparents I think… I miss them sometimes. But that’s probably not the answer you were looking for. Chriet Titulaer for sure. He’s an old Dutch television maker who died in 2017. He was making a lot of programs about the tech industry and most of his predictions we now actually use. Very interesting fellow. My favourite comedian should also be there: Herman Finkers. Again, a Dutch fellow. Don’t look him up if you’re not Dutch. A lot of his jokes are a play on words and it just cannot be translated to another language most of the time. And the third… I don’t know… Ed Stafford maybe. He just seems like a nice fellow to have a beer with.
But any dinner would be most likely with friends, neighbours, industry friends (which overlap the real friends on occasion), colleagues. Everybody with an interesting story, a good sense of humor and an appetite.
Do you have any hidden talents or unique skills that not many people know about?
Not really. I’m not known as an introvert, so I guess I told everybody everything already. People are surprised if I start playing piano. I can play stuff in a minute that would amaze you and then I’ll walk off embarrassed. Truth of the matter is that I can only play that one minute, lol.
If you weren’t in the adult industry, is there another career path or passion you’d like to pursue?
When I started as a programmer I had a couple of projects going. I stuck with thehun.net since that was making a little bit of money in the beginning and I had a lot of fun with it. The other projects I was doing could have easily been a success as well. I guess I’ll never know. In the early days of the Hun I started working on other businesses with other people as well. Some of those businesses became a great succes, others failed miserably. That’s the way it goes in business. I guess if adult never took off I would be in tech or music or food or travel or most likely a combination of those.
The great thing working the businesses I do now and more importantly: with the people I’m running them with, enables me to do all those things in the first place. I have a lot of people around me that I’m thankful for. Every day is packed with different challenges, different opportunities and different rewards. I’m very grateful for the variety I have in my work.
What’s something on your bucket list that you’d love to accomplish someday?
My bucket list is short. I like to put stuff in there when I know I can make it happen. I’d love for the study to take off. We have a recording studio close to Amsterdam with a lot of vintage equipment. We always ran everything of a digital table, basically a big mouse that let you record everything on a computer. Now we bought a state of the art analog console, fitting far better with the other equipment we have in the studio. This month we’re connecting everything (which is a lot of work), I’d love to see that work out. I guess that’s as bucket-listy as it’ll get. It’s the project I’m working on at the moment, keeps me busy.
Phone Sex – The Oldest Profession of the Modern World
For as long as I can remember, phone sex has been a way to make money. Long before the invention of the internet or computers in general, the telephone offered an entirely new form of intimate communication. Even in the early days of telephony, people could live out their fantasies and share their secret desires with women on the other end of the line. These stories are old, almost legendary, and yet this industry has managed to survive to this day. Even more, it remains a reliable source of revenue. But why is that?
The Myth and Reality of Phone Sex
Nearly everyone has heard the humorous anecdotes about chain-smoking women in aprons and slippers, ironing clothes while moaning seductively into the phone. And yes, such cases may indeed have existed – somewhere, at some point. But such clichés fall short. In reality, this is a professional genre that has been thriving for decades.
In the early days of phone sex, necessity became the mother of invention. For the first time, the telephone offered a way to anonymously discuss secret desires and fantasies. It allowed people to explore their sexuality in an entirely new way. The idea of having a partner by their side could be vividly enhanced through the voice on the other end of the line. Some might have thought that with the advent of the internet and modern technologies like webcams, the good old phone would lose its relevance. But the opposite is true.
The Renaissance of Phone Sex
Contrary to all expectations, phone sex has experienced a genuine renaissance in recent years. Demand is rising, offerings are becoming more diverse, and even content creators have rediscovered this classic source of income. Platforms like VXCash.net have modernized this old tradition with offerings like “Sex on Call.” They combine classic phone sex with optional webcam support, allowing callers not only to hear but also to see their partner – if they wish.
Interestingly, many men still prefer the simple, classic phone conversation. No cameras, no frills – just a voice that listens to them. For many, phone sex isn’t just an erotic experience but also a way to momentarily escape their daily lives and confide in someone anonymously.
Phone Sex: More Than Just Eroticism
The lines between an erotic conversation and a form of emotional support often blur. Many clients aren’t necessarily seeking sexual fulfillment but rather a sympathetic ear. Loneliness, the desire for companionship, or simply a good conversation without obligations – all of this makes phone sex so appealing.
This isn’t just about sex. It’s about connection, even if it’s only auditory. The intimacy of a conversation often takes center stage. The phrase “Anything goes, nothing is required” perfectly captures the essence here. Phone sex is straightforward, direct, and no-frills: Call – enjoy – hang up
The Secret to Success: Easy Monetization
Another key to the success of phone sex is its simplicity of use and payment. Clients can call directly without registering or providing payment details. Charges are conveniently billed through the phone bill – no subscriptions, no credit card information, no obligations. In an era where many adult platforms require complicated sign-up processes and subscription models, this simplicity is an invaluable advantage.
Phone Sex: A Phenomenon with a Future
The good old phone sex is here to stay for years to come. This is not just due to nostalgia but also the timeless appeal of this format. It is one of the oldest forms of modern adult services, with roots dating back to the 19th century. It’s by no means a sign of the “depravity” of today’s world. On the contrary, humans have always used their technological capabilities to explore their sexuality and fulfill their fantasies.
Conclusion: Phone Sex Remains Timeless
Google search trends, click numbers, conversion rates, and the growing number of providers all indicate that good old phone sex will continue to thrive. It’s as certain as the sun rising in the morning. It is one of the oldest trades of our modern age.
Since the invention of the telephone in 1876, there have undoubtedly been phone sex services almost as long. We don’t know what the future holds. The classic telephone evolved into smartphones, and in a few decades, our modes of communication will continue to change. But one thing is certain: in one form or another, phone sex will always be around.
Anthony Rivera: Visionary Leader Shaping the Adult Entertainment Industry
This week, Anthony Rivera, the dynamic force behind LALExpo, joins Adult Site Broker Talk to share insights into his groundbreaking contributions to the online adult entertainment sector.
As the co-founder of AJ Studios, Rivera has played a pivotal role in revolutionizing the cam model industry in Latin America. With a staggering network of over 3,000 models operating every day of the year, AJ Studios has become the region’s most awarded cam company and a dominant global partner for the top five cam networks. This level of excellence solidifies their reputation as an industry titan.
Innovation Through the Webcam Lab
Rivera’s influence doesn’t stop at AJ Studios. His entrepreneurial ventures include the Webcam Lab, a state-of-the-art, 24,000-square-foot facility that redefines outsourcing in the adult industry. This innovative hub connects a network of 600+ affiliate studios, empowering them with cutting-edge tools and resources. Under Rivera’s leadership, the Webcam Lab has become a benchmark for operational excellence and innovation in the sector.
LALEXPO: The Premier Event for Adult Industry Professionals
Rivera is also a founding partner of LALEXPO, the premier event that has set the standard for online adult entertainment conferences since its inception in 2014. Over the past decade, LALEXPO has established itself as a flagship gathering for professionals across the globe, offering unparalleled opportunities for networking, education, and collaboration.
The 10th annual LALEXPO, set to take place from February 23 to 26, 2025, at the Valle del Pacífico Convention Center in Cali, Colombia, is poised to surpass all expectations. With a legacy of attracting 5,000+ attendees from over 40 countries in its 2024 edition, the upcoming conference promises to be the most impactful yet. Attendees can look forward to dynamic sessions, industry-leading exhibits, and connections that drive business growth.
A Leader Driving the Future
Anthony Rivera’s vision and leadership continue to shape the adult entertainment industry, creating pathways for growth and innovation. Follow the journey of LALEXPO on X @ViveLalexpo, and don’t miss this opportunity to witness the future of the industry unfold.
Stay tuned to Adult Site Broker Talk for more insights from the people driving the adult industry forward.
Bruce, the mastermind behind Adult Site Broker and the voice of the Adult Site Broker Talk podcast, is heading to the XBIZ Show in Hollywood from January 13th to 16th at the super-chic Kimpton Everly Hotel. 🌟
Bruce dropped some vibes, saying, “Can’t wait to be back in LA, catch up with everyone, and dive into the amazing event XBIZ always delivers. Ready to network and make moves!” 💼✨
Oh, and did we mention? Bruce is up for Community Figure of the Year (again)! 🏆 The award goes down at the XBIZ Honors on January 15th at 8:30 PM. Fingers crossed for the big win! 🤞
For those who don’t know, Adult Site Broker is where the magic happens—connecting buyers and sellers in the adult industry with fair and seamless transactions. Wanna cash in? Their affiliate program, ASB Cash, lets you earn 20% of broker commissions on deals you refer that close. 💸 And don’t sleep on his podcast, Adult Site Broker Talk, dropping fresh episodes every Tuesday. 🎙️
Looking to buy or sell an adult site? Bruce is your guy. Slide into his DMs on the Adult Site Broker website to lock in an appointment. Let’s make it happen! 🔥
In the adult and porn industry, adult forums are simply indispensable. Whether you’re a professional or a newcomer, these platforms offer not only tips and tricks but also the opportunity to network. What good is the best product, idea, or content if you lack the connections to monetize it effectively? Staying up-to-date, following current developments – these are the advantages provided by the best adult forums, making them so essential for us. But which forums are worth it, which ones are popular, and where do industry professionals gather to exchange ideas? Let’s take a look at the market leaders.
GFY.com – the Go Fuck Yourself forum is a true legend
Founded in the early 2000s, the GFY forum has grown to become one of the largest discussion forums in the adult industry. GFY.com is not aimed at end consumers; it’s a space where industry professionals gather to exchange ideas. Whether you’re an adult webmaster, affiliate manager, porn producer, performer, or media buyer, this is where the industry’s who’s who meet informally, often with a touch of humor between the lines.
What makes GFY.com special? That’s easy to answer. First and foremost, it’s the tone of interaction. You need thick skin and a good sense of humor here. Yet, this candid and straightforward discussion style is also what makes the platform so appealing. Industry news, webmaster tips, a marketplace for trading content and domains, and discussions about current trends make GFY.com a daily destination for many adult industry professionals.
Beyond the professional forums, there’s also a dedicated section for small talk and personal conversations. While this might seem unimportant at first glance, it offers significant advantages. On GFY.com, you can get to know the person behind the profile more directly and personally than on many other platforms. Do you click? Are you on the same wavelength? Do you share similar views beyond the industry? All of these can be important factors when building new business relationships.
Xbiz.net – The forum of the XBIZ industry magazine
Xbiz.net also focuses on the adult and porn industry and is aimed almost exclusively at a professional audience. However, there are significant differences compared to GFY. For example, XBIZ maintains a professional tone, and discussions are far less direct. While this has its advantages, it also makes the exchange of information less colorful and humorous.
After registering, Xbiz.net offers visitors a variety of features. The ability to create detailed profiles makes it easy to connect with other members and find suitable professional contacts. There is a dedicated section for job opportunities in the adult industry, and a handy event calendar showcases worldwide trade shows. Unfortunately, this calendar almost exclusively promotes XBIZ’s own events, which is understandable but still a missed opportunity for readers.
The discussion forums on this platform are also diverse and serve as a genuine resource for staying up-to-date in the industry, especially if professional development is a priority. Undoubtedly, the main focus of Xbiz.net lies in the U.S., where the magazine originated. Xbiz.net is particularly invaluable for start-ups and newcomers to the industry, as it offers opportunities to search for mentors and partners – a process made relatively simple by the detailed profiles.
NoLimits.biz – the German-speaking adult forum
For the DACH region (Germany, Austria, and Switzerland), there is a dedicated adult forum. Naturally, its reach is somewhat limited due to the use of the German language. However, if you’re looking to establish yourself in the adult industry within the DACH region or simply stay up-to-date, this forum is an indispensable resource. The NoLimits forum is a small but valuable meeting place for industry veterans and newcomers alike, and it fosters a friendly and supportive atmosphere. Members are always willing to help, forming a tight-knit community of German-speaking webmasters where you can truly feel among peers.
Unlike the international forums mentioned above, this platform places special emphasis on helping newcomers and beginner webmasters. Dedicated sections provide tips and tricks for building a website, covering topics like SEO and content monetization. Although the forum is quieter than its larger competitors, with fewer users and many silent readers, the quality of advice remains high. Even if you have to wait a day or two for an answer to your question, the responses are consistently helpful. For anyone looking to connect with the German-speaking porn webmaster community, the NoLimits.biz forum is simply indispensable!
AdultBizNetwork.com – The Networking Platform for the Adult Industry
And last but not least, we would like to highlight the AdultBizNetwork, a networking platform for professionals in the adult entertainment industry. While it is not a forum in the traditional sense, this platform is dedicated to connecting webmasters, models, producers, and service providers in the adult industry, and therefore deserves a mention.
The platform offers registered members the opportunity to present themselves with a detailed profile, easily connect with others, and exchange experiences. There are numerous benefits that come with a free membership:
Networking with Industry Professionals Worldwide: Thanks to a well-thought-out search function, users can quickly connect with interesting contacts.
Sharing and Discovering Offers and Job Opportunities: Each member can showcase their own offers, job postings, and products, making them available to others, including with special discount codes.
Learning and Growing Together: Networking is king. This is the core purpose of the platform, as long-term success in a rapidly changing industry is only possible through collaboration.
Since registration and use of the platform are completely free, we are happy to support this project. So check it out and become part of AdultBizNetwork.com!
Brad Mitchell of Mojohost is this week’s guest on Adult Site Broker Talk in part two of a two-part interview.
Brad, an accomplished leader in the adult industry, founded MojoHost.
Since 1999, MojoHost has built a reputation as a reliable provider of adult-friendly web hosting solutions.
Their offerings include Cloud computing, Cloud Storage, VPS, Dedicated Servers, CDNs, Domains, and comprehensive Technical Support.
With over 2,000 clients and more than 50,000 websites supported, MojoHost operates with more than 50 workers across data centers in the U.S. and Europe. Their industry-recognized customer service has earned numerous awards.
You can follow Mojohost on X @mojohost
Bruce, the adult site broker, host of the show, and CEO of Adult Site Broker, said: “In part two Brad talked about AI, trade shows and advice for aspiring tech founders.”
Adult Site Broker helps people buy and sell websites in the adult space. They are known as “the ethical broker” for their business practices. You can contact them on their website at adultsitebroker.com. Bruce, the adult site broker, is a two-time nominee for XBIZ Community Figure of the Year.
Writing Bull, one of Germany’s most successful Twitch streamers, stands out with his friendly and mature community. The YouTuber and Twitch streamer specializes in building and strategy games such as Sid Meier’s Civilization series, Anno, Railway Empire, and countless others. His streams and videos are hardly ever boring. But before diving deeper into his streaming content, let’s first take a look at the man behind the camera. Who is Writing Bull, and where does he come from?
The German Twitch streamer and YouTuber Writing Bull
As a freelance radio journalist, working among others for WDR in Cologne, he brings with him all the knowledge and experience one might need as a streamer. From this beautiful city on the Rhine, he has built an impressive community over time. Early on, he discovered his passion for turn-based strategy games, and over time, his hobby became his profession.
He was involved in the development of several modifications for Sid Meier’s Colonization, leaving his mark on projects such as Werewolves and The Authentic Colonization. His passion for this genre of PC games was not destined to remain a hobby – he went all in. In 2013, more precisely on June 28th, Writing Bull founded his eponymous Twitch channel, which now boasts over 64,000 followers and approximately 3 million views, making it one of the largest in Germany. On average, 900 viewers—and during peak times, up to 1,800—tune in almost daily to his streams, which stand out significantly from others.
Writing Bull is also extremely active on his YouTube channel. In addition to his game streams, you can find countless interviews with game developers, preview videos of new releases, and much more. For fans of building and turn-based strategy games, he is a legend, and his streams are a must-watch.
Quality, both in terms of content and technology, is extremely important to him. When the trained journalist takes on a project, it is done thoroughly and with precision. Alongside top-tier hardware, his streams emphasize a friendly and welcoming atmosphere as well as a mature style of entertainment.
In numerous interviews, he has discussed his journey from journalist to Twitch streamer and willingly shares his experiences with the streaming community. It is no secret that his previous profession has been a tremendous help in establishing himself as a Twitch streamer. In essence, he continues to work as a journalist today – only now with video and his favorite games.
Sid Meier’s Civilization on Twitch – that’s Writing Bull
It’s safe to say that the Civilization series is the absolute highlight and most-streamed game on his channels. There isn’t a civilization, map, or add-on that he hasn’t successfully played and streamed. These days, he practically plays every game at the deity level, as he is the German king of this game series and a true master of his craft. His multiplayer games are equally legendary – true Civ fans can’t look away, even though such streams can last countless hours or even days.
The countdown is on. A few last rounds of Civ VI will surely be played, but Writing Bull’s focus has already shifted to Civilization VII, which will finally launch in February 2025 after six years of waiting. He has already shown us an Early Access playthrough on his channels, and together with countless followers, he eagerly anticipates the big day.
The countdown is on: Civilization 7 is coming!
The latest installment of the legendary 4X strategy game series is just weeks away from release and will be available from the start on platforms such as PC, Nintendo Switch, PlayStation 4 and 5, Xbox One, and more. The global Civ community eagerly awaits the day of its launch. Civilization 7 is not just about a few graphical improvements; many gameplay concepts have been fundamentally redesigned.
There are three main eras: the Ancient Era, the Age of Exploration, and the Modern Era. Unlike before, players don’t stick with a single civilization from start to finish. Instead, at the beginning of each main era, they can choose a new civilization based on the progress they’ve made so far.
City growth has also changed. The new “Urban Sprawl” feature allows cities to grow organically, adapting to surrounding terrain like hills and rivers. This makes city-building feel much more realistic and gives the game a completely fresh visual appeal.
The “Independent Powers,” or independent factions, add even more depth to the seventh installment of the series. Depending on how you interact with them, they can evolve into city-states, becoming either friends or foes, significantly contributing to the development of your own civilization.
You can already pre-order Civilization VII on platforms like Steam, where the “Deluxe Version” is available, granting access to the game as early as February 6, 2025. We’re already looking forward to the first Civ 7 streams from Writing Bull on Twitch, as this is likely the best way to dive into the newest installment of the series.
Traffic Networks in the Adult Industry – Higher, Faster, Further
It is well known that the adult industry is a rapidly growing and highly competitive market. This makes it all the more important for website operators to continuously increase their traffic. Generating traffic through SEO is certainly the best approach. However, this alone is often not enough to truly optimize product monetization effectively. This is where traffic networks come into play—an essential tool for successful media buying.
Networks like JuicyAds.com offer powerful tools to specifically target the right audience and purchase suitable traffic for a given website. In this article, we will take an in-depth look at how these traffic networks work and examine their pros and cons.
What Are Traffic Networks?
Do you have a product and want to monetize it? Then traffic networks might be a great tool for you. These platforms bring advertisers and publishers together to mutually benefit. One party has traffic, and the other needs it—a true win-win situation, provided everything is handled fairly and basic principles are observed. On platforms like JuicyAds, you can purchase ad spaces on websites and use comprehensive targeting options to precisely direct the right visitors to your product page.
How Does JuicyAds.com Work in Detail?
Let’s take a closer look at the traffic platform JuicyAds:
Registration: Both advertisers and publishers can register on the platform. Publishers offer advertising space on their sites, while advertisers can rent these spaces to generate traffic.
Campaign Creation: Campaigns can be created through a user-friendly and easy-to-learn self-service platform. This allows advertisers to define essential criteria for their desired traffic. Whether it’s location, language, device type, or the visitor’s interests, the possibilities are virtually endless. It’s crucial to take time to carefully consider which type of visitor you truly want on your product page and where the greatest potential for monetization lies.
Ad Formats: While the most common ad formats are likely familiar, let’s briefly touch on the key ones:
Banner Ads: Great for high visibility and effective branding.
Pop-Under Ads: These appear behind the main window and are highly effective for grabbing attention, though not always positively received as they are often blocked and can be annoying to users.
Direct Link Ads: These lead users directly to the target page, making them ideal for conversion-focused campaigns.
Statistics and Optimization: The importance of continuously tracking and analyzing the performance of your campaigns cannot be overstated. Money can be quickly wasted if you purchase traffic that doesn’t convert and fails to generate revenue. In a later section, we’ll delve deeper into how to monitor and evaluate campaigns effectively.
Advantages of JuicyAds and Similar Networks
Wide Reach: JuicyAds boasts an extensive network of publishers that reaches a large and diverse audience.
Targeted Traffic: With comprehensive targeting options, it’s easy to ensure that ads reach the right audience.
Cost Efficiency: Since you only pay for the traffic you actually receive, costs are transparent, making it simple to analyze whether a campaign is worthwhile or not.
User-Friendly: The platform offers intuitive tools suitable for both beginners and experienced advertisers.
Support: A dedicated support team is available to assist with questions or issues. JuicyAds truly stands out in this regard—the support is excellent, and I speak from personal experience.
Best Practices for the Optimal Use of Traffic Networks
1. Set Clear Goals What exactly do you want to achieve by joining a traffic network? Are you aiming to increase product sales, boost brand awareness, or simply drive more traffic to your website to potentially improve Google rankings in the long term? Clear goal-setting is essential for effectively planning and optimizing campaigns.
2. Budget Planning Careful budget planning is crucial—don’t waste money. It’s always advisable to start a new campaign with a small budget and monitor its performance closely. If the analysis yields positive results, you can gradually scale the budget and expand with minimal risk.
3. Create Engaging Ads A compelling call to action is key—but not always easy to execute. It’s important to design visually appealing ads (banners, landing pages, etc.). Use clear, high-quality images, relevant slogans, and language tailored to your target audience.
4. Conduct A/B Testing Testing is essential to explore the possibilities. Experiment with different ad formats, designs, and targeting options. Run a series of A/B tests to identify the best-performing model for your needs. Dedicate plenty of time to repeated analysis and comparisons. The effort and time invested in thorough testing will save significant costs later.
5. Monitor Performance The analytics tools provided within JuicyAds accounts are highly comprehensive. You can track the performance of your campaigns in real-time, gaining detailed insights into their progress. Metrics like click-through rates, conversion rates, and ROI are invaluable for refining and tailoring campaigns to your objectives.
Risks and Potential Issues
Of course, not everything that glitters is gold, and there are some challenges that a traffic network can present:
Traffic Quality: Not all traffic is high-quality and leads to good results. A significant amount of low-quality, overused traffic is often sold cheaply, making it almost impossible to monetize. The key is to monitor your campaigns closely and compare various traffic sources through A/B testing. You should only increase your budget once you have a clear understanding of the quality of the traffic you can expect.
Complexity: Managing campaigns can be time-consuming, especially if you are new to this field. Start with small budgets and take the time to learn what to focus on when setting up campaigns. There are numerous videos and tutorials available online that can provide valuable knowledge on this topic.
Costs: Without a clear strategy, expenses can quickly spiral out of control.
Conclusion
Especially for operators of adult websites looking to monetize a product, traffic networks like JuicyAds.com are almost indispensable. By following the tips mentioned above and taking the time to implement them, the purchased traffic will almost inevitably help you get significantly closer to your goals.
On the other hand, traffic networks are also immensely important for adult website operators without their own product, as they provide a way to monetize organic SEO traffic.
